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  • Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39  + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
  • The Wiki Waits For No One#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39  + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
  • The Wiki Is Happening#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39  + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
  • Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:27:20  + (we've talked about this as well, being ablwe've talked about this as well, being able to make the bot more granularly opt-in, as well as make some simple degeneracy rules like #CamelCase == [[Camel Case]] (actually proposed that probably to no result in masto here: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 )don/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 ))
  • Camel Case#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:27:20  + (we've talked about this as well, being ablwe've talked about this as well, being able to make the bot more granularly opt-in, as well as make some simple degeneracy rules like #CamelCase == [[Camel Case]] (actually proposed that probably to no result in masto here: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 )don/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 ))
  • Mastodon updates#mannaz-23-07-04 20:31:28  + (worst case scenario -- ppl get a break from scrolling our local TL for a while 😂 🙈 writing here in caps so that we [[Mastodon updates]] REMEMBER TO TAKE A BACKUP BEFORE starting.. we should have a rocess of the typical steps to follow)
  • Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-04 20:31:28  + (worst case scenario -- ppl get a break from scrolling our local TL for a while 😂 🙈 writing here in caps so that we [[Mastodon updates]] REMEMBER TO TAKE A BACKUP BEFORE starting.. we should have a rocess of the typical steps to follow)
  • Tech WG/Onboarding#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38  + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. </br></br>I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's</br>- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs</br>- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy</br>- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required</br>- pull down new changes to server</br>- potentially recompile yarn assets</br>- potentially run database migrations</br>- restart mastodon-* services</br></br>and that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
  • Tech WG#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38  + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. </br></br>I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's</br>- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs</br>- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy</br>- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required</br>- pull down new changes to server</br>- potentially recompile yarn assets</br>- potentially run database migrations</br>- restart mastodon-* services</br></br>and that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
  • Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38  + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. </br></br>I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's</br>- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs</br>- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy</br>- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required</br>- pull down new changes to server</br>- potentially recompile yarn assets</br>- potentially run database migrations</br>- restart mastodon-* services</br></br>and that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
  • WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:24:51  + (yes! this is definitely the idea with the yes! this is definitely the idea with the [[WikiBot]]: capture links in situ for reminders and backlinks, but then have them be part of the wiki that can be curated down rather than just being the raw content of the post forever. Need to fix up the css for representing posts on the wiki to make them a little less obtrusive, but then yeah they can be hidden or collapsed once the page matures.hidden or collapsed once the page matures.)
  • Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06  + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]]Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#Voting</br>Yes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. </br></br>A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). </br></br>Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
  • Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06  + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]]Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#Voting</br>Yes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. </br></br>A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). </br></br>Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
  • Sticky Posts#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31  + ((moved to page body))
  • Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-07 18:51:01  + (- solidarity with the fedi: to survive thi- solidarity with the fedi: to survive this and future attempts at corporate capture, it is important to act together. many instances have already committed to defederation, and even if it is symbolic, symbols are important.</br></br>- being defederated by other instances: we are currently in the good graces of some very protective instances through prior social ties and our promise to be a good actor in the space, these include instances with many leftists, queer people, and others that would likely defederate from us if we were to federate with meta. this would put NMS in a more homogeneous, corporate nice space in the fedi.</br></br>- communication with threads users: some people probably want to communicate with some threads users, and this might cause dual accounts, as you say. defederation would potentially split ties. I will hold my thoughts on this for now since I'm just trying to list the relevant factors.</br></br>what else? listing the concerns, we could then see how each impacts a decision to limit/defederate based on what each decision does. </br></br>I am traveling and AFK until Monday, but I think it would also be good to make a [[Defederation from Meta]] wiki page to keep more organized notes. forgot to tag the previous post.ed notes. forgot to tag the previous post.)
  • WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:07:42  + (<@827519038120132608> also re: memory and bridging between the garden and the stream or whatever metaphor ya want, you should check out [[WikiBot#Purpose]])
  • Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:07:42  + (<@827519038120132608> also re: memory and bridging between the garden and the stream or whatever metaphor ya want, you should check out [[WikiBot#Purpose]])
  • Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57  + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
  • Hack Merging Policy#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57  + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
  • Updating Mastodon#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57  + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
  • Code Review#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57  + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
  • Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-07 20:10:07  + (@here [[Announcements]]@here [[Announcements]] hello #neuromatchstodon membies </br>So far <@305044217393053697> and I have been doing most of the admin and moderation work in cooperation with the rest of the instance members. </br></br>We are excited to welcome new members joining our working groups!🎉 🥳 </br></br>This has been a long time coming but our very own #MastoDev <@485848481995423755> (who contributed to the exclusive lists PR that got merged upstream) is joining our <#1049184335514828860> 🙌 </br></br>And the amazing <@961628326005440552> (who is one of the organizers of #Maystodon #JoinMastodonDay and #NeuroParty) is joining the <#1049184264832417823> 🙌 </br></br>Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏832417823> 🙌 Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏)