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WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:22:33 + (the DOI thing I think will only take an ho … the DOI thing I think will only take an hour or two more, and then yeah will be adapting some of the [[WikiBot]] code that runs on this discord already to do an agora-like thing. I've talked to flancian about this as well a bunch of times, unifying the agora bots and making a general framework for that kind of cross platform linkingrk for that kind of cross platform linking)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
Mastodon/Seed Council#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
WikiParables#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
The Wiki Waits For No One#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
The Wiki Is Happening#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG/Onboarding#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:24:51 + (yes! this is definitely the idea with the … yes! this is definitely the idea with the [[WikiBot]]: capture links in situ for reminders and backlinks, but then have them be part of the wiki that can be curated down rather than just being the raw content of the post forever. Need to fix up the css for representing posts on the wiki to make them a little less obtrusive, but then yeah they can be hidden or collapsed once the page matures.hidden or collapsed once the page matures.)

Accessibility#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])

Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-07 18:51:01 + (- solidarity with the fedi: to survive thi … - solidarity with the fedi: to survive this and future attempts at corporate capture, it is important to act together. many instances have already committed to defederation, and even if it is symbolic, symbols are important.- being defederated by other instances: we are currently in the good graces of some very protective instances through prior social ties and our promise to be a good actor in the space, these include instances with many leftists, queer people, and others that would likely defederate from us if we were to federate with meta. this would put NMS in a more homogeneous, corporate nice space in the fedi.- communication with threads users: some people probably want to communicate with some threads users, and this might cause dual accounts, as you say. defederation would potentially split ties. I will hold my thoughts on this for now since I'm just trying to list the relevant factors.what else? listing the concerns, we could then see how each impacts a decision to limit/defederate based on what each decision does. I am traveling and AFK until Monday, but I think it would also be good to make a [[Defederation from Meta]] wiki page to keep more organized notes. forgot to tag the previous post.ed notes. forgot to tag the previous post.)
Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-08-27 22:00:20 + (Also saw you boosted this, seems like a great idea for [[Translation]] https://frontrange.co/@raineer/110959799057137486)
Translation#sneakers.the.rat-23-08-27 22:00:20 + (Also saw you boosted this, seems like a great idea for [[Translation]] https://frontrange.co/@raineer/110959799057137486)
Wikilink#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Mastodon/Finances#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])