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Accessibility#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])

Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-07 18:51:01 + (- solidarity with the fedi: to survive thi … - solidarity with the fedi: to survive this and future attempts at corporate capture, it is important to act together. many instances have already committed to defederation, and even if it is symbolic, symbols are important.- being defederated by other instances: we are currently in the good graces of some very protective instances through prior social ties and our promise to be a good actor in the space, these include instances with many leftists, queer people, and others that would likely defederate from us if we were to federate with meta. this would put NMS in a more homogeneous, corporate nice space in the fedi.- communication with threads users: some people probably want to communicate with some threads users, and this might cause dual accounts, as you say. defederation would potentially split ties. I will hold my thoughts on this for now since I'm just trying to list the relevant factors.what else? listing the concerns, we could then see how each impacts a decision to limit/defederate based on what each decision does. I am traveling and AFK until Monday, but I think it would also be good to make a [[Defederation from Meta]] wiki page to keep more organized notes. forgot to tag the previous post.ed notes. forgot to tag the previous post.)
Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-08-27 22:00:20 + (Also saw you boosted this, seems like a great idea for [[Translation]] https://frontrange.co/@raineer/110959799057137486)
Translation#sneakers.the.rat-23-08-27 22:00:20 + (Also saw you boosted this, seems like a great idea for [[Translation]] https://frontrange.co/@raineer/110959799057137486)
Wikilink#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Mastodon/Finances#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)
Trends#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Honorary Members#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-12-05 06:58:02 + (OK <@318247805124870145> i'm doing a … OK <@318247805124870145> i'm doing a little wiki gardening rn and here i'll narrate a little of what i'm doing as i do it to give you a sense of what that looks like:first i am reading this and wondering how i could offer part of this to you, and with this set of prompts and with ur previous comments about 'where do i even start with this thing' which are extremely justified i want to make a 'how to get started with masto as software' page, so I go to where we have previously put such things on the Tech WG page (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Tech_WG ) and add a link there to a new [[Intro To Mastohacking]] page ( https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Intro_To_Mastohacking ) since i figure "intro to mastodon" is too much like our general getting started on fedi pages. idk we can always change it later.So then i do a search for "docs" to see where else we might have written stuff like this and lo and behold there's also a page for that, so i add a link from there too: https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Mastodon/Docsthen i start my new page by adding categories and backlinks. Don't worry about the syntax for right now, but what i'm doing here is making this page findable in a few different ways - by navigating from related pages, formally through the semantic relationship `Part Of`, and then also via the category system (which we can also query to eg. display a list of all pages in the "hacking" and "guide" categories if we want to make some automatic index, but i digress).nothing on the page yet but that? fuck it, save page. we can keep saving as we update, no need to be shy on wiki(sorry for notifs el i'm going to split this up into a few messages so i can intersperse images)into a few messages so i can intersperse images))
NMC#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
Mastodon and Neuromatch#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
Infrastructure#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
Neuromatch and Mastodon#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
NMA#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])
Wiki/TODO#mstimberg-22-12-09 20:16:00 + (Re [[Wiki/TODO#Onboarding]]: I migrated earlier today and took some notes, happy to add them to the wiki – I'd need someone to approve my account (`mstimberg`), though 😊)
Discord Messages#mstimberg-22-12-09 20:16:00 + (Re [[Wiki/TODO#Onboarding]]: I migrated earlier today and took some notes, happy to add them to the wiki – I'd need someone to approve my account (`mstimberg`), though 😊)
Social WG/Responsibilities#mannaz-23-07-07 00:50:28 + (Thank you El and welcome onboard!! woohoo! … Thank you El and welcome onboard!! woohoo!! 🥳 ❤️ 💚 💜 💙 🧡 [[Social WG/Responsibilities]] continued: with great power comes great responsibility :) Before taking any drastic decisions, we should discuss things with the instance -- things like defederation/limiting instances and banning accounts. Also, we should be careful when speaking on behalf of the instance from our "official" accounts like the @socialwg one (this one is quite scary for me because sometime mods say something that ticks another mod/instance member off and then it leads to pile ons 😬 -- so we try to be as cordial as possible and respect people from other instances even if they choose different things for their community - that's fine. we all don't have to be an exact replica of each other :) )we learn new things from other mods too -- I follow the #fediblock hashtag and keep an eye on anything that could affect us terribly. In the past we have blocked instances based on reports from other mods on this hashtag (see <#1055915765133488158>) I've been on call since December https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Mods_On_Call. You could add your availability here. Let's get you wiki access as well if you don't have already. Create an account here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io and <@305044217393053697> can approve it when they are back from their short holiday. Being on call means I check for new account requests once a day and approve them if there aren't any issues. Or bring the discussion to the instance. And handle any reports. We get updates from linode when a few settings cross a threshold. Usually it just means the instance has been busy. But it could also be a DDoS attack -- so I also quickly browse through our local TL and this discord to see nothings blowing up. We have an admin@neuromatch.social account that I monitor every few days. We get very few emails there. monitor every few days. We get very few emails there.)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-07 00:50:28 + (Thank you El and welcome onboard!! woohoo! … Thank you El and welcome onboard!! woohoo!! 🥳 ❤️ 💚 💜 💙 🧡 [[Social WG/Responsibilities]] continued: with great power comes great responsibility :) Before taking any drastic decisions, we should discuss things with the instance -- things like defederation/limiting instances and banning accounts. Also, we should be careful when speaking on behalf of the instance from our "official" accounts like the @socialwg one (this one is quite scary for me because sometime mods say something that ticks another mod/instance member off and then it leads to pile ons 😬 -- so we try to be as cordial as possible and respect people from other instances even if they choose different things for their community - that's fine. we all don't have to be an exact replica of each other :) )we learn new things from other mods too -- I follow the #fediblock hashtag and keep an eye on anything that could affect us terribly. In the past we have blocked instances based on reports from other mods on this hashtag (see <#1055915765133488158>) I've been on call since October https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Mods_On_Call. You could add your availability here. Let's get you wiki access as well if you don't have already. Create an account here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io and <@305044217393053697> can approve it when they are back from their short holiday. Being on call means I check for new account requests once a day and approve them if there aren't any issues. Or bring the discussion to the instance. And handle any reports. We get updates from linode when a few settings cross a threshold. Usually it just means the instance has been busy. But it could also be a DDoS attack -- so I also quickly browse through our local TL and this discord to see nothings blowing up. We have an admin@neuromatch.social account that I monitor every few days. We get very few emails there. monitor every few days. We get very few emails there.)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-06 23:31:37 + (Thank you soo much El!! This would be amaz … Thank you soo much El!! This would be amazing! to be frank, you already help us here in the working group and we all truly appreciate that ❤️ [[Social WG/Responsibilities]] If you officially join, what this would do is allow us to give you access to the moderation interface where we handle new account requests and reports, and you'd also publicly get the credit that you deserve for all your contributions! :) I think some academics can be really stingy about giving credits (uh see one of my recent polls :P https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110556283019459141) but in a place like ours where we are all volunteers doing the work, every bit of appreciation goes a long way. So another thing we could be doing more often is showing gratitude to instance members and like <@305044217393053697> mentioned -- make everyone feel welcome and improve our onboarding experience. Like recently from the socialwg account, I've been boosting intros, lab pics, graduation news, etc etc.. We could make all of that more fun and be like "hey #neuromatchstodon <awesome NMS member> got their PhD give them boosts" 🥳 or something Account requests are usually the fun part of moderation -- I love reading the reasons people/organizations/departments/conferences share for joining the instance and they are always so interesting and diverse! (e.g. the time someone said they had fomo of not being on neuromatch.social ❤️ https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049136631065628775/1116378014897426432)The only thing to be careful of is if the account requester mentions something that could be a violation of our rules or our bylaws. In such instances, I typically ask the instance for their opinion on our social wg forum channel. For full transparency we do have a private mod channel but we haven't used that since April! A good sign that we are not hiding things from the instance. We used to use it only for cases where we had to disclose some PIIse it only for cases where we had to disclose some PII)
Social WG/Responsibilities#mannaz-23-07-06 23:31:37 + (Thank you soo much El!! This would be amaz … Thank you soo much El!! This would be amazing! to be frank, you already help us here in the working group and we all truly appreciate that ❤️ [[Social WG/Responsibilities]] If you officially join, what this would do is allow us to give you access to the moderation interface where we handle new account requests and reports, and you'd also publicly get the credit that you deserve for all your contributions! :) I think some academics can be really stingy about giving credits (uh see one of my recent polls :P https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110556283019459141) but in a place like ours where we are all volunteers doing the work, every bit of appreciation goes a long way. So another thing we could be doing more often is showing gratitude to instance members and like <@305044217393053697> mentioned -- make everyone feel welcome and improve our onboarding experience. Like recently from the socialwg account, I've been boosting intros, lab pics, graduation news, etc etc.. We could make all of that more fun and be like "hey #neuromatchstodon <awesome NMS member> got their PhD give them boosts" 🥳 or something Account requests are usually the fun part of moderation -- I love reading the reasons people/organizations/departments/conferences share for joining the instance and they are always so interesting and diverse! (e.g. the time someone said they had fomo of not being on neuromatch.social ❤️ https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049136631065628775/1116378014897426432)The only thing to be careful of is if the account requester mentions something that could be a violation of our rules or our bylaws. In such instances, I typically ask the instance for their opinion on our social wg forum channel. For full transparency we do have a private mod channel but we haven't used that since April! A good sign that we are not hiding things from the instance. We used to use it only for cases where we had to disclose some PIIse it only for cases where we had to disclose some PII)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-05-31 23:55:22 + (Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some o … Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some of these on the NM conference channel as well and there is definitely some interest around it. So this is exciting! > forum mode! one thing I would love is for NMS to be a place where non-neuroscientists can come and ask questions of neuroscientists...Yess! I've also been thinking of how to break down the barriers between scientists and non-scientists in general and for the NM and climatematch communities. Currently if anyone wants to be a part of the NM/CM community they need to be actively involved with it somehow -- as a student/TA/conference presenter/organizer/mentor/volunteer/... but with NMS anyone whose interests and values align is welcome to join us and hang out with a bunch of scientists. NMS is a low barrier entry to the community and expands the scope of the community! I think forums would be great for the [[Knowledge Group]] [[Knowledge Club]] that we've discussed [here](https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184264832417823/1106307113359265932) and looks like there is interest for it in even outside of neuroscience (on the same thread that Jonny linked earlier -- https://weirder.earth/@dessertgeek/110460194256055941 and my response https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110463002047148596). The only thing with forum mode is we'd need to figure out how to basically take lemmy's code and make it work with masto. Easiest would be to host it as a separate forum.neuromatch.social subdomain but it would be awesome if folks didn't have to create a separate account for that. We could ask for funding to implement the forum mode with DIY stuff where we hack it to make it work with masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?ith masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?)
Knowledge Group#mannaz-23-05-31 23:55:22 + (Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some o … Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some of these on the NM conference channel as well and there is definitely some interest around it. So this is exciting! > forum mode! one thing I would love is for NMS to be a place where non-neuroscientists can come and ask questions of neuroscientists...Yess! I've also been thinking of how to break down the barriers between scientists and non-scientists in general and for the NM and climatematch communities. Currently if anyone wants to be a part of the NM/CM community they need to be actively involved with it somehow -- as a student/TA/conference presenter/organizer/mentor/volunteer/... but with NMS anyone whose interests and values align is welcome to join us and hang out with a bunch of scientists. NMS is a low barrier entry to the community and expands the scope of the community! I think forums would be great for the [[Knowledge Group]] [[Knowledge Club]] that we've discussed [here](https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184264832417823/1106307113359265932) and looks like there is interest for it in even outside of neuroscience (on the same thread that Jonny linked earlier -- https://weirder.earth/@dessertgeek/110460194256055941 and my response https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110463002047148596). The only thing with forum mode is we'd need to figure out how to basically take lemmy's code and make it work with masto. Easiest would be to host it as a separate forum.neuromatch.social subdomain but it would be awesome if folks didn't have to create a separate account for that. We could ask for funding to implement the forum mode with DIY stuff where we hack it to make it work with masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?ith masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?)
Knowledge Club#mannaz-23-05-31 23:55:22 + (Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some o … Those are great ideas!! We'd shared some of these on the NM conference channel as well and there is definitely some interest around it. So this is exciting! > forum mode! one thing I would love is for NMS to be a place where non-neuroscientists can come and ask questions of neuroscientists...Yess! I've also been thinking of how to break down the barriers between scientists and non-scientists in general and for the NM and climatematch communities. Currently if anyone wants to be a part of the NM/CM community they need to be actively involved with it somehow -- as a student/TA/conference presenter/organizer/mentor/volunteer/... but with NMS anyone whose interests and values align is welcome to join us and hang out with a bunch of scientists. NMS is a low barrier entry to the community and expands the scope of the community! I think forums would be great for the [[Knowledge Group]] [[Knowledge Club]] that we've discussed [here](https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184264832417823/1106307113359265932) and looks like there is interest for it in even outside of neuroscience (on the same thread that Jonny linked earlier -- https://weirder.earth/@dessertgeek/110460194256055941 and my response https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110463002047148596). The only thing with forum mode is we'd need to figure out how to basically take lemmy's code and make it work with masto. Easiest would be to host it as a separate forum.neuromatch.social subdomain but it would be awesome if folks didn't have to create a separate account for that. We could ask for funding to implement the forum mode with DIY stuff where we hack it to make it work with masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?ith masto accounts?? does that seem feasible?)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:29:58 + (Yes! Good question!!!!! Thats one of the b … Yes! Good question!!!!! Thats one of the basic [[Consensus]] questions - good for me vs. Good for the group. Good for both is ideal ofc, but "bad for me, good for the group" is the real meat of the problem. There's a couple of different flavors there. Is bad for me something thats actively bad, something that will have negative felt effects on me, or is it something that just isnt good for me, something I wont feel the positive effects of? Also, is "bad for me" a symptom of "bad for the group" in that the decision is exclusionary/the negative impacts predominately fall on a particular group? In this case, does being able to opt out alleviate concerns you have, or is there something larger you're objecting to beyond that? Few decisions are universally good for everyone, so were your concerns heard and weighed as part of the discussion? How that translates to a vote can be a little tricky/subjective, but in general if there are no active harmful effects, just absence of benefit for you then that would be a vote yes with caveat. Other consensus systems have a "stand aside" which is "if the rest of the group thinks this is good then I'll go with it, but I have some problem with the decision as a whole beyond how it impacts me" where a certain number of stand asides equal a block - doing something everyone feels lukewarm about is not great consensus. We could make abstentions mean that if that makes sense, altho an abstain means something slightly different ("I dont have enough information here but that wasnt the fault of the process" or "this us wholly irrelevant to me" or "I have some conflict of interest"). If you feel like this would have negative impacts on you that you feel like weren't seriously addressed during the discussion, or arent reflected in the outcome, then vote no.Thats all my interpretation, not gospel or True, and the "meaning of votes" being somewhat up to interpretation and variable between systems is one of the things that makes consensus messye of the things that makes consensus messy)
Consensus#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:29:58 + (Yes! Good question!!!!! Thats one of the b … Yes! Good question!!!!! Thats one of the basic [[Consensus]] questions - good for me vs. Good for the group. Good for both is ideal ofc, but "bad for me, good for the group" is the real meat of the problem. There's a couple of different flavors there. Is bad for me something thats actively bad, something that will have negative felt effects on me, or is it something that just isnt good for me, something I wont feel the positive effects of? Also, is "bad for me" a symptom of "bad for the group" in that the decision is exclusionary/the negative impacts predominately fall on a particular group? In this case, does being able to opt out alleviate concerns you have, or is there something larger you're objecting to beyond that? Few decisions are universally good for everyone, so were your concerns heard and weighed as part of the discussion? How that translates to a vote can be a little tricky/subjective, but in general if there are no active harmful effects, just absence of benefit for you then that would be a vote yes with caveat. Other consensus systems have a "stand aside" which is "if the rest of the group thinks this is good then I'll go with it, but I have some problem with the decision as a whole beyond how it impacts me" where a certain number of stand asides equal a block - doing something everyone feels lukewarm about is not great consensus. We could make abstentions mean that if that makes sense, altho an abstain means something slightly different ("I dont have enough information here but that wasnt the fault of the process" or "this us wholly irrelevant to me" or "I have some conflict of interest"). If you feel like this would have negative impacts on you that you feel like weren't seriously addressed during the discussion, or arent reflected in the outcome, then vote no.Thats all my interpretation, not gospel or True, and the "meaning of votes" being somewhat up to interpretation and variable between systems is one of the things that makes consensus messye of the things that makes consensus messy)
Access Policy#mannazsci-23-08-30 08:45:21 + ([[Access_Policy]] for - Server shell acces … [[Access_Policy]] for- Server shell access : root, user- Git repo access: admin, maintain, write, triage, read - email accounts: admin@ noreply@- Mastodon Admin portal- Mastodon @admin account- Mastodon @techwg account- Sendgrid - Loomio - Wiki - DNS (neuromatch.social) - Discord mod chat : discord roles until we move away from discordBased on the access policy we decide, we would need to update access and note that on this page: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Administrators https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Administrators)
Discord Messages#mannazsci-23-08-30 08:45:21 + ([[Access_Policy]] for - Server shell acces … [[Access_Policy]] for- Server shell access : root, user- Git repo access: admin, maintain, write, triage, read - email accounts: admin@ noreply@- Mastodon Admin portal- Mastodon @admin account- Mastodon @techwg account- Sendgrid - Loomio - Wiki - DNS (neuromatch.social) - Discord mod chat : discord roles until we move away from discordBased on the access policy we decide, we would need to update access and note that on this page: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Administrators https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Administrators)
Mastodon/Hacking#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 20:53:43 + ([[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this … [[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this thread about different possible implementation approaches[[Mastodon/Hacking#Dev Environment]]: Details on setting up [[Vagrant]] for local development[[Wikibot#TODO]]: implement n-back archiving of threads and previous posts, the parser already supports itious posts, the parser already supports it)
Mastodon/Mathjax#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 20:53:43 + ([[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this … [[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this thread about different possible implementation approaches[[Mastodon/Hacking#Dev Environment]]: Details on setting up [[Vagrant]] for local development[[Wikibot#TODO]]: implement n-back archiving of threads and previous posts, the parser already supports itious posts, the parser already supports it)
Wikibot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 20:53:43 + ([[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this … [[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this thread about different possible implementation approaches[[Mastodon/Hacking#Dev Environment]]: Details on setting up [[Vagrant]] for local development[[Wikibot#TODO]]: implement n-back archiving of threads and previous posts, the parser already supports itious posts, the parser already supports it)
Vagrant#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 20:53:43 + ([[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this … [[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this thread about different possible implementation approaches[[Mastodon/Hacking#Dev Environment]]: Details on setting up [[Vagrant]] for local development[[Wikibot#TODO]]: implement n-back archiving of threads and previous posts, the parser already supports itious posts, the parser already supports it)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 20:53:43 + ([[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this … [[Mastodon/Mathjax]]: information in this thread about different possible implementation approaches[[Mastodon/Hacking#Dev Environment]]: Details on setting up [[Vagrant]] for local development[[Wikibot#TODO]]: implement n-back archiving of threads and previous posts, the parser already supports itious posts, the parser already supports it)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-18 00:23:06 + ([[Mastodon/Tech WG#TODO]] [[Translation]] … [[Mastodon/Tech WG#TODO]] [[Translation]] services! can we do something like Kolektiva does: https://kolektiva.social/@subMedia/109531114768269437 isn't there some fancy new offline/self-contained translation network thing??? I don't want to make any calls to Google from the instance but translation would be greathe instance but translation would be great)
Translation#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-18 00:23:06 + ([[Mastodon/Tech WG#TODO]] [[Translation]] … [[Mastodon/Tech WG#TODO]] [[Translation]] services! can we do something like Kolektiva does: https://kolektiva.social/@subMedia/109531114768269437 isn't there some fancy new offline/self-contained translation network thing??? I don't want to make any calls to Google from the instance but translation would be greathe instance but translation would be great)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#mannaz-23-01-20 14:33:05 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-01-20 Installed NTP to sync system clock]] This was done to resolve a 2FA issue involving Authy (a TOTP app) https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1065990577381974067)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-01-20 14:33:05 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-01-20 Installed NTP to sync system clock]] This was done to resolve a 2FA issue involving Authy (a TOTP app) https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1065990577381974067)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 06:08:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] c … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] check out how user-specific settings were reformatted re: config/settings.yml. See also https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109359788602707988 and https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/110936074243355854872/1049184335514828860/1109360742433558548)
TODO#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 06:08:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] c … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] check out how user-specific settings were reformatted re: config/settings.yml. See also https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109359788602707988 and https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/110936074243355854872/1049184335514828860/1109360742433558548)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 05:46:32 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are att … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are attempting to [[Upgrade Mastodon]] to 4.1.2 and also merge in [[Exclusive Lists]], wish us luck. We begin with what is probably the worst way to do it based on the conversation in <#1049184335514828860> , specifically:* main -> dev, * upstream -> dev, * dev -> pr, * pr -> dev, * dev -> main https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396els/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 06:08:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] c … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: [[TODO]] check out how user-specific settings were reformatted re: config/settings.yml. See also https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109359788602707988 and https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/110936074243355854872/1049184335514828860/1109360742433558548)
Exclusive Lists#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 05:46:32 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are att … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are attempting to [[Upgrade Mastodon]] to 4.1.2 and also merge in [[Exclusive Lists]], wish us luck. We begin with what is probably the worst way to do it based on the conversation in <#1049184335514828860> , specifically:* main -> dev, * upstream -> dev, * dev -> pr, * pr -> dev, * dev -> main https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396els/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396)
Upgrade Mastodon#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 05:46:32 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are att … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are attempting to [[Upgrade Mastodon]] to 4.1.2 and also merge in [[Exclusive Lists]], wish us luck. We begin with what is probably the worst way to do it based on the conversation in <#1049184335514828860> , specifically:* main -> dev, * upstream -> dev, * dev -> pr, * pr -> dev, * dev -> main https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396els/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 05:46:32 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are att … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-05-19]]: We are attempting to [[Upgrade Mastodon]] to 4.1.2 and also merge in [[Exclusive Lists]], wish us luck. We begin with what is probably the worst way to do it based on the conversation in <#1049184335514828860> , specifically:* main -> dev, * upstream -> dev, * dev -> pr, * pr -> dev, * dev -> main https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396els/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1109355378178789396)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#mannazsci-23-10-01 07:44:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-10-01]] I am ready to deploy v4.2 but I encountered a few issues while following the process mentioned in [[Upgrade_Mastodon]]. I'll update the wiki with the steps I took.)
Discord Messages#mannazsci-23-10-01 07:44:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-10-01]] I am ready to deploy v4.2 but I encountered a few issues while following the process mentioned in [[Upgrade_Mastodon]]. I'll update the wiki with the steps I took.)
Wiki/TODO#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:38:45 + ([[Wiki#TODO]] Clean up link to [[Wiki/TODO]] and write some docs on [[Wikibot#Usage Patterns]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:38:45 + ([[Wiki#TODO]] Clean up link to [[Wiki/TODO]] and write some docs on [[Wikibot#Usage Patterns]])
Wiki#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:38:45 + ([[Wiki#TODO]] Clean up link to [[Wiki/TODO]] and write some docs on [[Wikibot#Usage Patterns]])
Wikibot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:38:45 + ([[Wiki#TODO]] Clean up link to [[Wiki/TODO]] and write some docs on [[Wikibot#Usage Patterns]])
Rails#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Ruby#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Redux#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Masto Code Structure#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
React#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:10:47 + (as u talk about stuff you can tag in vario … as u talk about stuff you can tag in various concepts like [[Institutional Memory]] or if your working group is organized you can even tag in specific projects and Todo lists or just use it to bookmark conversations so you have an indexical/plastic memorybank alongside a fluid/streamlike mode of communication. the cscw ppl in the workshop we did a month or so ago went bananas for this lol it is goodo ago went bananas for this lol it is good)
Institutional Memory#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:10:47 + (as u talk about stuff you can tag in vario … as u talk about stuff you can tag in various concepts like [[Institutional Memory]] or if your working group is organized you can even tag in specific projects and Todo lists or just use it to bookmark conversations so you have an indexical/plastic memorybank alongside a fluid/streamlike mode of communication. the cscw ppl in the workshop we did a month or so ago went bananas for this lol it is goodo ago went bananas for this lol it is good)
Accessibility#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 +
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 +
Discord#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 +
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Hacks#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discussions#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:22:33 + (the DOI thing I think will only take an ho … the DOI thing I think will only take an hour or two more, and then yeah will be adapting some of the [[WikiBot]] code that runs on this discord already to do an agora-like thing. I've talked to flancian about this as well a bunch of times, unifying the agora bots and making a general framework for that kind of cross platform linkingrk for that kind of cross platform linking)
Mastodon/Seed Council#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
The Wiki Is Happening#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
The Wiki Waits For No One#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
WikiParables#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:28:39 + (up to y'all but all I'll say is we did indeed already start one and [[The Wiki Is Happening]] feat. [[The Wiki Waits For No One]] [[WikiParables]])
Tech WG#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG/Onboarding#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:24:51 + (yes! this is definitely the idea with the … yes! this is definitely the idea with the [[WikiBot]]: capture links in situ for reminders and backlinks, but then have them be part of the wiki that can be curated down rather than just being the raw content of the post forever. Need to fix up the css for representing posts on the wiki to make them a little less obtrusive, but then yeah they can be hidden or collapsed once the page matures.hidden or collapsed once the page matures.)