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Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-17 22:16:31 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#24-02-14]] - Patching two more security bugs thread!)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-17 22:16:31 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#24-02-14]] - Patching two more security bugs thread!)
Accessibility#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Nested Threads#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Grants#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Mastodon/Grants#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
DIY Algorithms#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Mastodon/TODO#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Better Code Blocks#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
Hacks#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discussions#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:22:33 + (the DOI thing I think will only take an ho … the DOI thing I think will only take an hour or two more, and then yeah will be adapting some of the [[WikiBot]] code that runs on this discord already to do an agora-like thing. I've talked to flancian about this as well a bunch of times, unifying the agora bots and making a general framework for that kind of cross platform linkingrk for that kind of cross platform linking)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG/Onboarding#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))

Discord Messages#mannaz-23-01-20 14:33:05 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-01-20 Installed NTP to sync system clock]] This was done to resolve a 2FA issue involving Authy (a TOTP app) https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1065990577381974067)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#mannaz-23-01-20 14:33:05 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-01-20 Installed NTP to sync system clock]] This was done to resolve a 2FA issue involving Authy (a TOTP app) https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1049184335514828860/1065990577381974067)

Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-07 20:10:07 + (@here [[Announcements]] … @here [[Announcements]] hello #neuromatchstodon membies So far <@305044217393053697> and I have been doing most of the admin and moderation work in cooperation with the rest of the instance members. We are excited to welcome new members joining our working groups!🎉 🥳 This has been a long time coming but our very own #MastoDev <@485848481995423755> (who contributed to the exclusive lists PR that got merged upstream) is joining our <#1049184335514828860> 🙌 And the amazing <@961628326005440552> (who is one of the organizers of #Maystodon #JoinMastodonDay and #NeuroParty) is joining the <#1049184264832417823> 🙌 Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏832417823> 🙌 Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏)
Announcements#mannaz-23-07-07 20:10:07 + (@here [[Announcements]] … @here [[Announcements]] hello #neuromatchstodon membies So far [[Jonny]] and [[Manisha]] have been doing most of the admin and moderation work in cooperation with the rest of the instance members. We are excited to welcome new members joining our working groups!🎉 🥳 This has been a long time coming but #MastoDev extraordinaire [[Lina]] (who contributed to the Exclusive Lists PR that got merged upstream) is joining our [[Tech_WG]] 🙌 And the amazing [[El]] (who is one of the organizers of #Maystodon #JoinMastodonDay and #NeuroParty) is joining our [[Social_WG]] 🙌 Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏th for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏)
Jest#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby Spec#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Exclusive Lists#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Mastodon/Tests#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Wikilink#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Unattended Upgrades#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-21 21:37:59 + (Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] … Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] turned on to automatically keep system-level packages up to date. I usually do that with servers I manage because i have been told by security ppl that keeping up to date is like most of what matters with day-to-say security probs, but i mean it seems like it could uh accidentally break a package one day and kill the instance, so idk if there's a reason to not do that but thought i'd ask reason to not do that but thought i'd ask)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-21 21:37:59 + (Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] … Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] turned on to automatically keep system-level packages up to date. I usually do that with servers I manage because i have been told by security ppl that keeping up to date is like most of what matters with day-to-say security probs, but i mean it seems like it could uh accidentally break a package one day and kill the instance, so idk if there's a reason to not do that but thought i'd ask reason to not do that but thought i'd ask)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Mastodon/Finances#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Zenodo Social Reading#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Mastodon/Hacks#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)
Trends#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Honorary Members#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-25 01:59:05 + (OK [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] … OK[[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] going to pull in a few upgrades:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/7* Mathjax* Larger Post Previews* Default false notifications for new follows* Autofollow accountsAnd also pulling in updates from upstream glitch-soc, which in my test run means that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16)