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Upgrade Mastodon#mannazsci-23-10-01 07:44:40 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-10-01]] I am ready … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-10-01]] I am ready to deploy v4.2 but I encountered a few issues while following the process mentioned in [[Upgrade_Mastodon]]. The glitch-soc-main branch had commits from merge-upstream even after syncing the the branch. So I created a new branch called glitch-clean-sync from glitch-soc's main branch and added protections to this branch. This let's us keep this branch clean and not merge any custom features to this branch. We'd only use the sync feature. I also tried to follow the rest of the process but it seemed a bit complicated/unclear. I've tried to simplify it in a separate section above for glitch+4.2+our instance's features. I've also created a clean and stable dev-stable branch for custom features that we add. I've added branch protections here as well and PRs will require reviews on this branch.d PRs will require reviews on this branch.)
React#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Redux#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Masto Code Structure#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Ruby#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Rails#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-27 20:04:22 + (also need general [[Ruby]] … also need general [[Ruby]] dev stuff, like a [[Masto Code Structure]] overview, which I'm feeling more and more capable of doing, and I have been doing on my personal wiki and could export over. still need to figure out how to write tests but yes I think I have gotten the big chunks of how stuff works. the [[Rails]] <-> [[Redux]] <-> [[React]] stuff still sorta eludes me, esp how it's "supposed" to be done in the program because I have more experience with react and you can do a lot of uh web app stuff with it that could also be done with rails (tho a lot of their components are a) written in the old object style which I find sorta clumsy after converting to the function style and b) actually pretty imperative for a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult) a declarative framework, which makes stuff difficult))
Accessibility#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-26 03:58:14 + (great! let me plant a bookmark on the wiki to remind me to fill in this information when I get internet at my new place & can edit it. [[Accessibility#Disabling Motion]] [[Discord#Accessibility]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-15 03:31:15 + (i can't remember where we left off w.r.t. enabling [[trends]] on the instance, i can't think of a strong reason to leave them disabled, but does anyone have feelings about this?)
Trends#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-15 03:31:15 + (i can't remember where we left off w.r.t. enabling [[trends]] on the instance, i can't think of a strong reason to leave them disabled, but does anyone have feelings about this?)
Hacks#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discussions#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-17 10:58:31 + (ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again an … ok i'd like to raise an olde idea again and that is having an instancewide [[Sticky Posts]] to supplement announcements to be able to make discussions that are intended to lead to a proposal more visible to the instance. loomio and discord merely by virtue of being separate platforms are less visible, so let's try and do a lil bridging of mediums.here's one idea of what that might look like:v1- currently we have a [[Discussions]] stage in governance docs (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Governance#Discussions) we can make that a more formal definition and say that a discussion intended to lead to a proposal is a stickied post.- ping a member of social wg (make sure these are up to date) or start discussion here to make a sticky post- sticky posts come from an autofollowed @ discussions account- ... are local only posts- ... show themselves at the top of the home and local feed with a highlighted background color to offset them from the feed- ... have a "minimize" button that is persistent across sessions, so once you minimize a sticky post it is hidden but still visible, I'm thinking like a 1em bar across the top of the feedquestions: - can we just use browser storage to remember collapsed status rather than needing to make a new column in the statuses table for 'collapsed'- should stickies have a time limit? or just a mechanism to close them in governance process?v2a) The threading interface on the web interface is awful, b) it would be nice to be able to show a title on a minimized sticky postc) ideally we would be able to organize discussions around topics and questions rather than chronologically in a more forumlike wayso- posts can have titles- titles are declared with a special "title" field in the web ui- or with a first line beginning with a # from other clients, a la markdown- replies with titles can be minimized too- replies with titles are sorted first (bc they can be minimized)[[Hacks]][[Hacks]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork#sneakers.the.rat-24-02-16 23:01:41 + (ok so they refactored all the css, and it … ok so they refactored all the css, and it was pretty hard to track down what in the heck was changed, so here is another [[Lessons We Gone And Learned From Maintaining A Fork Of A Fork]] - patching is good, editing in place can be fragile. i moved the custom styles from better code blocks and expanded status previews to their own set of stub scss files that then get imported at the end of the scss index, so they should override conflicting rules set previously. that keeps them nice and separate and survivable in the case of big refactorings. this is similar to the "flavours" system which takes whatever isn't overridden from base masto. i can't run the dev server rn bc my brother is in town but since these are just css changes we can uh test in prod i thinkhttps://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/commit/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163aceat/8e54a6bf891ff855104225032dd9ccfb0163acea)
Mastodon/Feeds#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-21 17:49:16 + (so! the "local" feed is the one that shows … so! the "local" feed is the one that shows all the toots from our instance, the "federated" feed shows all toots from everyone that everyone on the instance follow. "local-only toots" are a special feature of glitch-soc where you can make your post *only* visible to the other members of the instance (in base masto you can only limit to mentioned accounts or followers). Local feed also will show you boosts from people on our instance, I'm not sure if there's a way to turn that off but if there isn't there should be bc that would be nice[[Mastodon/Social WG#TODO]]: guides on how the different [[Mastodon/Feeds]] and [[Mastodon/Post Visibility]] work[[Mastodon/Post Visibility]] work)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-21 17:49:16 + (so! the "local" feed is the one that shows … so! the "local" feed is the one that shows all the toots from our instance, the "federated" feed shows all toots from everyone that everyone on the instance follow. "local-only toots" are a special feature of glitch-soc where you can make your post *only* visible to the other members of the instance (in base masto you can only limit to mentioned accounts or followers). Local feed also will show you boosts from people on our instance, I'm not sure if there's a way to turn that off but if there isn't there should be bc that would be nice[[Mastodon/Social WG#TODO]]: guides on how the different [[Mastodon/Feeds]] and [[Mastodon/Post Visibility]] work[[Mastodon/Post Visibility]] work)
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:22:33 + (the DOI thing I think will only take an ho … the DOI thing I think will only take an hour or two more, and then yeah will be adapting some of the [[WikiBot]] code that runs on this discord already to do an agora-like thing. I've talked to flancian about this as well a bunch of times, unifying the agora bots and making a general framework for that kind of cross platform linkingrk for that kind of cross platform linking)
Camel Case#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:27:20 + (we've talked about this as well, being abl … we've talked about this as well, being able to make the bot more granularly opt-in, as well as make some simple degeneracy rules like #CamelCase == [[Camel Case]] (actually proposed that probably to no result in masto here: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 )don/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 ))
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:27:20 + (we've talked about this as well, being abl … we've talked about this as well, being able to make the bot more granularly opt-in, as well as make some simple degeneracy rules like #CamelCase == [[Camel Case]] (actually proposed that probably to no result in masto here: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 )don/issues/19992#issuecomment-1363496984 ))
Tech WG/Onboarding#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Tech WG#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-07-04 21:16:38 + (yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to … yes agreed we should make a wiki guide to updating the instance. I need to log off for the day bc am visiting friends, but in short it's- start backup in linode (reminder to also set you up with an account there and add that to [[Tech WG#TODO]] [[Tech WG/Onboarding]] docs- do all the git work that we're familiar with to prepare the new deploy- check upgrade notes, usually on base masto release notes, to see if anything out of the ordinary is required- pull down new changes to server- potentially recompile yarn assets- potentially run database migrations- restart mastodon-* servicesand that's usually it. downtime is usually on the order of a few seconds (and we could explore how to make that zero, I think that's how the pros do it with like multiple servers)the pros do it with like multiple servers))
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:24:51 + (yes! this is definitely the idea with the … yes! this is definitely the idea with the [[WikiBot]]: capture links in situ for reminders and backlinks, but then have them be part of the wiki that can be curated down rather than just being the raw content of the post forever. Need to fix up the css for representing posts on the wiki to make them a little less obtrusive, but then yeah they can be hidden or collapsed once the page matures.hidden or collapsed once the page matures.)

Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)
Trends#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 + (I think that's part of trends (but I'd nee … I think that's part of trends (but I'd need to check). and the reason why we didn't have [[Trends]] enabled was because of this: https://discord.com/channels/1049136631065628772/1052069805856935996/1067653230533804093 if that has changed in the recent versions of masto/glitch, we can enable trends againf masto/glitch, we can enable trends again)

WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:07:42 + (<@827519038120132608> also re: memory and bridging between the garden and the stream or whatever metaphor ya want, you should check out [[WikiBot#Purpose]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-09 12:07:42 + (<@827519038120132608> also re: memory and bridging between the garden and the stream or whatever metaphor ya want, you should check out [[WikiBot#Purpose]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Mastodon/Tests#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Jest#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby Spec#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Exclusive Lists#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
TODO#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-20 05:20:06 + (Also that reminds me that I did get the announcement notif but the interface opened starting with the first announcement not the most recent one so [[TODO]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-20 05:20:06 + (Also that reminds me that I did get the announcement notif but the interface opened starting with the first announcement not the most recent one so [[TODO]])
Wikilink#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-26 21:34:40 + (BTW since we have lotsa new people here, w … BTW since we have lotsa new people here, when I make a [[Wikilink]] we have a bot that copies your message to the wiki so we can capture discussion contextually and refine it later. Eg. In this case that previous message went here: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discordtps://wiki.neuromatch.io/Consensus#Discord)
Unattended Upgrades#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-21 21:37:59 + (Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] … Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] turned on to automatically keep system-level packages up to date. I usually do that with servers I manage because i have been told by security ppl that keeping up to date is like most of what matters with day-to-say security probs, but i mean it seems like it could uh accidentally break a package one day and kill the instance, so idk if there's a reason to not do that but thought i'd ask reason to not do that but thought i'd ask)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-21 21:37:59 + (Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] … Btw I noticed we don't have [[Unattended Upgrades]] turned on to automatically keep system-level packages up to date. I usually do that with servers I manage because i have been told by security ppl that keeping up to date is like most of what matters with day-to-say security probs, but i mean it seems like it could uh accidentally break a package one day and kill the instance, so idk if there's a reason to not do that but thought i'd ask reason to not do that but thought i'd ask)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-10 22:57:03 +
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Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Honorary Members#sneakers.the.rat-23-09-27 23:54:40 + (I wanted to check in before I invited some … I wanted to check in before I invited someone(s) that is not a neuromatch.social member to the discord - we already have a few beloved [[Honorary Members]] but I dont think we have any explicit norm here. Does anyone have any objection to this? The main reason to use discord is to be able to coordinate in small groups in real time in a way masto doesn't really work for, and nothing in public channels as far as I can tell is private, so it makes sense to me for members to be able to invite ppl they vouch for? If honorary members cause trouble (which I doubt they would) then we could address that when/if it happens, it seems like prevailing social norms of being responsible for someone u bring into a space mostly take care of that yno.If I dont hear anything in a day or so ill invite them!r anything in a day or so ill invite them!)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-25 01:59:05 + (OK [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] … OK[[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] going to pull in a few upgrades:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/7* Mathjax* Larger Post Previews* Default false notifications for new follows* Autofollow accountsAnd also pulling in updates from upstream glitch-soc, which in my test run means that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-25 01:59:05 + (OK [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] … OK[[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] going to pull in a few upgrades:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/7* Mathjax* Larger Post Previews* Default false notifications for new follows* Autofollow accountsAnd also pulling in updates from upstream glitch-soc, which in my test run means that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-23-12-05 06:58:02 + (OK <@318247805124870145> i'm doing a … OK <@318247805124870145> i'm doing a little wiki gardening rn and here i'll narrate a little of what i'm doing as i do it to give you a sense of what that looks like:first i am reading this and wondering how i could offer part of this to you, and with this set of prompts and with ur previous comments about 'where do i even start with this thing' which are extremely justified i want to make a 'how to get started with masto as software' page, so I go to where we have previously put such things on the Tech WG page (https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Tech_WG ) and add a link there to a new [[Intro To Mastohacking]] page ( https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Intro_To_Mastohacking ) since i figure "intro to mastodon" is too much like our general getting started on fedi pages. idk we can always change it later.So then i do a search for "docs" to see where else we might have written stuff like this and lo and behold there's also a page for that, so i add a link from there too: https://wiki.neuromatch.social/Mastodon/Docsthen i start my new page by adding categories and backlinks. Don't worry about the syntax for right now, but what i'm doing here is making this page findable in a few different ways - by navigating from related pages, formally through the semantic relationship `Part Of`, and then also via the category system (which we can also query to eg. display a list of all pages in the "hacking" and "guide" categories if we want to make some automatic index, but i digress).nothing on the page yet but that? fuck it, save page. we can keep saving as we update, no need to be shy on wiki(sorry for notifs el i'm going to split this up into a few messages so i can intersperse images)into a few messages so i can intersperse images))
Infrastructure#sneakers-the-rat-23-04-01 22:32:47 + (QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] … QUESTION isn't [[NMA]] coming up? and maybe [[NMC]] at some point???? how can the instance support that????? can we make some cool pages for people to share their code or whatever, index the talks in a conference, etc???? I have posted a few ideas before in the neuromatch slack but wanted to pose this generally to the instance and see if we can yno use that as a motivating reason to do some masto hackingtagging the neuromatch ppl I know are on the discord <@540104559079456770> <@1050459047582781480> <@215274946560131074> <@651480296415297553> and who else sorry I don't have a list[[Mastodon and Neuromatch]][[Neuromatch and Mastodon]] (idk lol I'll just redirect one page to another)[[Infrastructure]][[Infrastructure]])