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Mastodon/TODO#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-07 04:15:02 + (i think it would be cool if we could pay a … i think it would be cool if we could pay a member or two to hack on the instance!! we could take proposals on what ppl would like to see improved that guide what they are working on so we actually can resolve some of the many tiny things littering our [[Mastodon/TODO]] and maybe even one or two big things like finally doing [[DIY Algorithms]] or [[Nested Threads]] or whatnot.[[Grants]] [[Mastodon/Grants]][[Mastodon/Grants]])
Better Code Blocks#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-30 04:49:04 + (ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]] … ok [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-03-29]]: going to pull in dev branch and deploy to tha server: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/13 I thought this had fetch all replies in it but i need to rebase it and also now that we know how to write them i want to write some tests....It does have [[Better Code Blocks]] in it from <@485848481995423755> : https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9wish e luckm/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/9 wish e luck)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-23-05-20 08:29:54 + (ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]] … ok [[Tech_WG/Ops_Diary#23-05-19]]: We conclude this evening having gotten all the way to the last stage where we pull back to main and then deploy. see preceding chat logs for history and also for the millionth time [[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts[[WikiBot#TODO]] implement archiving ranges of posts)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-26 23:33:51 + (ok here's [[Fetch All Replies]]: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109582537808504261)
Fetch All Replies#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-26 23:33:51 + (ok here's [[Fetch All Replies]]: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109582537808504261)
Linode/Loomio#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 02:48:18 + (quick aside for <@540104559079456770> … quick aside for <@540104559079456770> if she gets a second, can u add some DNS records for meeeee???- `A` record pointing `feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `A` record pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `AAAA` pointing `feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f` - `AAAA` pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f`That's the [[Linode/Loomio]] node, not the [[Linode/Mastodon]] node, so i won't be draining resources. want to start running a dev version of [[paper-feeds]] to test against actual RSS readers and also test federation when we get to activitypub. https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/)
Linode/Mastodon#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 02:48:18 + (quick aside for <@540104559079456770> … quick aside for <@540104559079456770> if she gets a second, can u add some DNS records for meeeee???- `A` record pointing `feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `A` record pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `AAAA` pointing `feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f` - `AAAA` pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f`That's the [[Linode/Loomio]] node, not the [[Linode/Mastodon]] node, so i won't be draining resources. want to start running a dev version of [[paper-feeds]] to test against actual RSS readers and also test federation when we get to activitypub. https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/)
Paper-feeds#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 02:48:18 + (quick aside for <@540104559079456770> … quick aside for <@540104559079456770> if she gets a second, can u add some DNS records for meeeee???- `A` record pointing `feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `A` record pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `AAAA` pointing `feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f` - `AAAA` pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f`That's the [[Linode/Loomio]] node, not the [[Linode/Mastodon]] node, so i won't be draining resources. want to start running a dev version of [[paper-feeds]] to test against actual RSS readers and also test federation when we get to activitypub. https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 02:48:18 + (quick aside for <@540104559079456770> … quick aside for <@540104559079456770> if she gets a second, can u add some DNS records for meeeee???- `A` record pointing `feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `A` record pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `45.56.100.144`- `AAAA` pointing `feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f` - `AAAA` pointing `dev.feeds` subdomain to `2600:3c03::f03c:93ff:feca:b20f`That's the [[Linode/Loomio]] node, not the [[Linode/Mastodon]] node, so i won't be draining resources. want to start running a dev version of [[paper-feeds]] to test against actual RSS readers and also test federation when we get to activitypub. https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/paper-feeds/)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-23 15:11:22 + (re: [[PaperBot]] … re: [[PaperBot]] we also had talked about [[DOI Search]] and resolving urls to DOIs and embedding them in the [[JSON-LD]]. the DOI Search should actually be super easy if we do it by altering the hashtag regex. doing it by making it an additional search type would take a little more, as would doing automatic dereferencing, but all those sound like fun to meencing, but all those sound like fun to me)
PaperBot#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-23 15:11:22 + (re: [[PaperBot]] … re: [[PaperBot]] we also had talked about [[DOI Search]] and resolving urls to DOIs and embedding them in the [[JSON-LD]]. the DOI Search should actually be super easy if we do it by altering the hashtag regex. doing it by making it an additional search type would take a little more, as would doing automatic dereferencing, but all those sound like fun to meencing, but all those sound like fun to me)
JSON-LD#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-23 15:11:22 + (re: [[PaperBot]] … re: [[PaperBot]] we also had talked about [[DOI Search]] and resolving urls to DOIs and embedding them in the [[JSON-LD]]. the DOI Search should actually be super easy if we do it by altering the hashtag regex. doing it by making it an additional search type would take a little more, as would doing automatic dereferencing, but all those sound like fun to meencing, but all those sound like fun to me)
DOI Search#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-23 15:11:22 + (re: [[PaperBot]] … re: [[PaperBot]] we also had talked about [[DOI Search]] and resolving urls to DOIs and embedding them in the [[JSON-LD]]. the DOI Search should actually be super easy if we do it by altering the hashtag regex. doing it by making it an additional search type would take a little more, as would doing automatic dereferencing, but all those sound like fun to meencing, but all those sound like fun to me)
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 04:53:38 + (so re: [[Stoplight]] … so re: [[Stoplight]] and [[Cooldown]]s, [[Sidekiq#Cooldown]] tries to deliver something 16 times ( https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/eb24c0ad07c4137517e6bd37ebcc99d6e2b86797/app/workers/activitypub/delivery_worker.rb#L11 )the delay rises exponentially (^4) with each retry. So eg by the 10th retry we're delaying an average of 208 minutes, and by 16 we're at 1365 (22 hours). That delay uses sidekiq's `sidekiq_retry_in` method, which applies to each delivery task (ie. each status we're trying to push), but there is also an additional control flow tool Stoplight ( https://blog.bolshakov.dev/stoplight/ ) that applies per inbox URL (rather than per job). You start in a good (green) state. Each failure counts towards a threshold (10), after which it halts all jobs matching that inbox (red). After the cooldown period (60 seconds) it flips into a "yellow" state: if the next job succeeds, it flips back to green. If it fails, it goes immediately back to red. That configuration seems sorta... pointless to me? if it only kicks in after 10 failures, then it'll only be halting after really long delays, right? it seems like that should be a high threshold with like a really long cooldown to me - if we haven't been able to deliver like 200 messages, then cooldown for like 6 hours (i'm not sure if receiving a message clears the stoplight) receiving a message clears the stoplight))
Stoplight#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 04:53:38 + (so re: [[Stoplight]] … so re: [[Stoplight]] and [[Cooldown]]s, [[Sidekiq#Cooldown]] tries to deliver something 16 times ( https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/eb24c0ad07c4137517e6bd37ebcc99d6e2b86797/app/workers/activitypub/delivery_worker.rb#L11 )the delay rises exponentially (^4) with each retry. So eg by the 10th retry we're delaying an average of 208 minutes, and by 16 we're at 1365 (22 hours). That delay uses sidekiq's `sidekiq_retry_in` method, which applies to each delivery task (ie. each status we're trying to push), but there is also an additional control flow tool Stoplight ( https://blog.bolshakov.dev/stoplight/ ) that applies per inbox URL (rather than per job). You start in a good (green) state. Each failure counts towards a threshold (10), after which it halts all jobs matching that inbox (red). After the cooldown period (60 seconds) it flips into a "yellow" state: if the next job succeeds, it flips back to green. If it fails, it goes immediately back to red. That configuration seems sorta... pointless to me? if it only kicks in after 10 failures, then it'll only be halting after really long delays, right? it seems like that should be a high threshold with like a really long cooldown to me - if we haven't been able to deliver like 200 messages, then cooldown for like 6 hours (i'm not sure if receiving a message clears the stoplight) receiving a message clears the stoplight))
Cooldown#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 04:53:38 + (so re: [[Stoplight]] … so re: [[Stoplight]] and [[Cooldown]]s, [[Sidekiq#Cooldown]] tries to deliver something 16 times ( https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/eb24c0ad07c4137517e6bd37ebcc99d6e2b86797/app/workers/activitypub/delivery_worker.rb#L11 )the delay rises exponentially (^4) with each retry. So eg by the 10th retry we're delaying an average of 208 minutes, and by 16 we're at 1365 (22 hours). That delay uses sidekiq's `sidekiq_retry_in` method, which applies to each delivery task (ie. each status we're trying to push), but there is also an additional control flow tool Stoplight ( https://blog.bolshakov.dev/stoplight/ ) that applies per inbox URL (rather than per job). You start in a good (green) state. Each failure counts towards a threshold (10), after which it halts all jobs matching that inbox (red). After the cooldown period (60 seconds) it flips into a "yellow" state: if the next job succeeds, it flips back to green. If it fails, it goes immediately back to red. That configuration seems sorta... pointless to me? if it only kicks in after 10 failures, then it'll only be halting after really long delays, right? it seems like that should be a high threshold with like a really long cooldown to me - if we haven't been able to deliver like 200 messages, then cooldown for like 6 hours (i'm not sure if receiving a message clears the stoplight) receiving a message clears the stoplight))
Sidekiq#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-09 04:53:38 + (so re: [[Stoplight]] … so re: [[Stoplight]] and [[Cooldown]]s, [[Sidekiq#Cooldown]] tries to deliver something 16 times ( https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/eb24c0ad07c4137517e6bd37ebcc99d6e2b86797/app/workers/activitypub/delivery_worker.rb#L11 )the delay rises exponentially (^4) with each retry. So eg by the 10th retry we're delaying an average of 208 minutes, and by 16 we're at 1365 (22 hours). That delay uses sidekiq's `sidekiq_retry_in` method, which applies to each delivery task (ie. each status we're trying to push), but there is also an additional control flow tool Stoplight ( https://blog.bolshakov.dev/stoplight/ ) that applies per inbox URL (rather than per job). You start in a good (green) state. Each failure counts towards a threshold (10), after which it halts all jobs matching that inbox (red). After the cooldown period (60 seconds) it flips into a "yellow" state: if the next job succeeds, it flips back to green. If it fails, it goes immediately back to red. That configuration seems sorta... pointless to me? if it only kicks in after 10 failures, then it'll only be halting after really long delays, right? it seems like that should be a high threshold with like a really long cooldown to me - if we haven't been able to deliver like 200 messages, then cooldown for like 6 hours (i'm not sure if receiving a message clears the stoplight) receiving a message clears the stoplight))
WikiBot#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-29 00:22:33 + (the DOI thing I think will only take an ho … the DOI thing I think will only take an hour or two more, and then yeah will be adapting some of the [[WikiBot]] code that runs on this discord already to do an agora-like thing. I've talked to flancian about this as well a bunch of times, unifying the agora bots and making a general framework for that kind of cross platform linkingrk for that kind of cross platform linking)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
Mastodon/Seed Council#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 12:03:08 + (this week is a good week to finish our rul … this week is a good week to finish our rules, instance description, invite statement and make a mass coordinated announcement ♥️♥️♥️😘😘😘in cooperation, towards information liberation!!!!!pls join us in conversations in <#1050561894752198706> if you are so inclined 🙂[[Mastodon/Seed Council#TODO]]https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uDTODO]] https://open.spotify.com/track/0fEasSvs63eKApKfYbi2uD)
Mastodon updates#mannaz-23-07-04 20:31:28 + (worst case scenario -- ppl get a break from scrolling our local TL for a while 😂 🙈 writing here in caps so that we [[Mastodon updates]] REMEMBER TO TAKE A BACKUP BEFORE starting.. we should have a rocess of the typical steps to follow)
Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-04 20:31:28 + (worst case scenario -- ppl get a break from scrolling our local TL for a while 😂 🙈 writing here in caps so that we [[Mastodon updates]] REMEMBER TO TAKE A BACKUP BEFORE starting.. we should have a rocess of the typical steps to follow)

Discord Messages#mannaz-23-07-07 18:47:50 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-07-07]]: masto 4.1. … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-07-07]]: masto 4.1.3 update -- security patch. Jonny's on the road so Lina and Manisha are going to give this a try. If we muck something up, please be kind 🥺 starting by making a linode backup and then following instructions on ... oh wait! dang they already released 4.1.4 just an hour ago https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.4 4.1.3 from yesterday: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.3.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.3)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#mannaz-23-07-07 18:47:50 + ([[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-07-07]]: masto 4.1. … [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#23-07-07]]: masto 4.1.3 update -- security patch. Jonny's on the road so Lina and Manisha are going to give this a try. If we muck something up, please be kind 🥺 starting by making a linode backup and then following instructions on ... oh wait! dang they already released 4.1.4 just an hour ago https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.4 4.1.3 from yesterday: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.3.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.1.3)

Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57 + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have … <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
Hack Merging Policy#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57 + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have … <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
Updating Mastodon#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57 + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have … <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
Code Review#sneakers-the-rat-23-01-02 22:39:57 + (<@863052667857534996> do y'all have … <@863052667857534996> do y'all have anything like this for the pyopensci stuff? like a "make a feature branch off dev, make a pull request back to dev, during a code review, look for xyz" then we will also need stuff like how to do the merge and update the instance [[Hack Merging Policy]] [[Updating Mastodon]] [[Code Review]][[Code Review]])
Announcements#mannaz-23-07-07 20:10:07 + (@here [[Announcements]] … @here [[Announcements]] hello #neuromatchstodon membies So far [[Jonny]] and [[Manisha]] have been doing most of the admin and moderation work in cooperation with the rest of the instance members. We are excited to welcome new members joining our working groups!🎉 🥳 This has been a long time coming but #MastoDev extraordinaire [[Lina]] (who contributed to the Exclusive Lists PR that got merged upstream) is joining our [[Tech_WG]] 🙌 And the amazing [[El]] (who is one of the organizers of #Maystodon #JoinMastodonDay and #NeuroParty) is joining our [[Social_WG]] 🙌 Thank you both for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏th for your outstanding contributions ❤️ 🙏)
Jest#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby Spec#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Ruby#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Exclusive Lists#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Mastodon/Tests#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-18 21:48:09 + (@lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]] … @lina gathering some stuff here: [[Mastodon/Tests]][[Mastodon/Tech WG]][[Exclusive Lists]][[Ruby Spec]][[Ruby]]spec for home feed:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/home_feed_spec.rbfor public feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/public_feed_spec.rbthat gives more examples on how feeds are supposed to be filteredtag feed: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/tag_feed_spec.rbin case we might want to add exclusive tag feeds (I personally do, self interested bc monsterdon lol)account filter (looks like for blocks): https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/spec/models/account_statuses_filter_spec.rband so on the question to me is basically how these things are structured: you have some fabricator steps that set up the conditions for the test, but then you also have these `context` statements that looks like plain English strings to me? like how do those and the `describe` fields map onto the code? like is their testing system so good that you can really just write`it {is_expected.to be_filtered }` and that just works???? or how do you define all those.Also u mentioned they are using a separate JavaScript testing framework? [[Jest]] ? that looks like it's configured here: https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/blob/main/jest.config.jsand doesn't cover the glitch flavours, just the mastodon folder. it seems like that is for testing the appearance and function of the JS? not sure how it interacts with the ruby tests.So for the sake of us learning to write tests here, I don't think we need to aim for full adversarial coverage of the feature, but just get the basics: "when an account is in an exclusive list, their posts dont show up on the home feed." judging from the other tests, it looks like we'll have to also test for boosts from them, but since it's not like a block we don't have to test a bunch of edge cases like interactions.t a bunch of edge cases like interactions.)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Consensus#sneakers-the-rat-23-02-02 03:11:06 + (Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] … Ah yes, this is a [[Consensus]] thing. I just updated the wiki page to explain a bit better: https://wiki.neuromatch.io/Mastodon/Governance#VotingYes, you can think of it analogously to a veto. Consensus refers both to making decisions that accommodate the needs of all members as well as consent - you should not be able to be coerced into consent by a bare majority of people. In more intimate consensus processes, a single person might be able to block a proposal. That becomes untenable in larger groups for sort of obvious reasons, hence the design of this governance system to have different proportional thresholds for different types of proposals, as well as division of decisionmaking power between working groups and the general membership. A block means something different than voting in a few ways, including that blocks should be rare: consensus sort of inverts the decisionmaking process, where care should be taken to discuss with the membership and refine a proposal before, rather than after making the proposal - so in a majoritarian system one might make a proposal and make an argument in favor, people discuss in the comments and then make up their minds there. The purpose of requiring discussion beforehand is to make more space for everyone to craft the proposal in the first place, register concerns, etc. So if people are blocking a proposal, that is a sign that the process has failed (as opposed to in a majoritarian system that the proposal has failed). Blocking also typically enjoins the person blocking to help remedy the reason for their block: if a proposal is being made in good faith, we assume that it is meeting some unmet need by the proposer/other members. If someone blocks a proposal, that will mean that it might cause them or the organization harm, but those unmet needs still remain - so it's basically like conflict res at that point. Ofc there are exceptions like not making marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.marginalized ppl do additional labor, etc.)
Mastodon/Mathjax#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 08:37:18 + (Aight i'm totally flummoxed about how to g … Aight i'm totally flummoxed about how to get [[Mastodon/Mathjax#Stumpted]] to load. it <really really> wants you to use the <script> tag loading method, which i would rather not do since that makes it way less portable or else requires a call-out to an external CDN, but I can't get the startup functions to trigger programmatically, and i've tried all the various things in their docs as well as some other stuff that isn't. I am tempted to just rewrite the mathstodon stuff using a react component that i was able to find but idk <@451520217139511306> u know anything else about this?<@451520217139511306> u know anything else about this?)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-12 08:37:18 + (Aight i'm totally flummoxed about how to g … Aight i'm totally flummoxed about how to get [[Mastodon/Mathjax#Stumpted]] to load. it <really really> wants you to use the <script> tag loading method, which i would rather not do since that makes it way less portable or else requires a call-out to an external CDN, but I can't get the startup functions to trigger programmatically, and i've tried all the various things in their docs as well as some other stuff that isn't. I am tempted to just rewrite the mathstodon stuff using a react component that i was able to find but idk <@451520217139511306> u know anything else about this?<@451520217139511306> u know anything else about this?)
TODO#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-20 05:20:06 + (Also that reminds me that I did get the announcement notif but the interface opened starting with the first announcement not the most recent one so [[TODO]])
Discord Messages#sneakers.the.rat-24-01-20 05:20:06 + (Also that reminds me that I did get the announcement notif but the interface opened starting with the first announcement not the most recent one so [[TODO]])
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Mastodon/Finances#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-17 00:07:49 + (For the moment, until we decide on a diffe … For the moment, until we decide on a different model, neuromatch bears the costs of the instance. Though we trust neuromatch to not abuse that power, one question we should answer as a community is whether we want to move to a fully cooperative model where the members of the instance support its costs so it is truly member-owned and operated. That would likely look like some sliding scale model where members are encouraged to pay what they can, a rough guideline based on nothing but vibes might be: - $0/mo for students/people making <$50k annually- $1/mo for postdocs/people making <$75k annually- $5/mo for PIs/people making >$75k annuallythough this would be something we would determine based on how many members we have and how much the instance costs to run. If we were to do this, then we would use opencollective to make our finances transparent. We could also do a hybrid model where neuromatch kicks in some defined contribution and the members donate the rest, or if we establish a financial working group we could collectively apply for grants with neuromatch as a fiscal sponsor.Another benefit is that by having some financial surplus we would be able to pay stipends to people who volunteer for mod duty/being on call for tech emergencies.In the meantime though, mostly so the <#1049184335514828860> knows what it's working with: what kind of costs is neuromatch willing to bear? eg. upgrading to a 16GB ram node with 8 dedicated CPUs would be $120/month but would probably be as much scale as we need for the indefinite future. Currently we are going to upgrade to an 8GB ram node at $60/month, which is already $720 annually (just for the instance, we are also running another node that will host the wiki and loomio)<@215274946560131074> [[Mastodon/Finances]][[Mastodon/Finances]])
Zenodo Social Reading#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Mastodon/Hacks#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-23-03-10 07:10:00 + (I just had a good idea I think: [[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] … I just had a good idea I think:[[Mastodon/Hacks#Ideas]] [[Zenodo Social Reading]]https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/109997725222638244> ok you know what would actually rock: a #Zenodo plugin where you could sync a collection to an #ActivityPub outbox, and do social public highlighting that way - share a set of papers under a topic for ppl to browse, but also share your annotations and then be able to show your friends annotations over the papers you're reading if u want to#MastoHacks #MastoDevre reading if u want to #MastoHacks #MastoDev)
Tech WG/Ops Diary#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-25 01:59:05 + (OK [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] … OK[[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] going to pull in a few upgrades:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/7* Mathjax* Larger Post Previews* Default false notifications for new follows* Autofollow accountsAnd also pulling in updates from upstream glitch-soc, which in my test run means that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16)
Discord Messages#sneakers-the-rat-22-12-25 01:59:05 + (OK [[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] … OK[[Tech WG/Ops Diary#22-12-24]] going to pull in a few upgrades:https://github.com/NeuromatchAcademy/mastodon/pull/7* Mathjax* Larger Post Previews* Default false notifications for new follows* Autofollow accountsAnd also pulling in updates from upstream glitch-soc, which in my test run means that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16that we have to upgrade node from 14 to 16)